Nutanix Weekly: 100th Episode Celebration

We're got a milestone with 100 episodes where we will recap some of our best moments from the first 99 episodes, some behind the scenes stories, with trivia and prizes.  

Host: Phil Sellers, XenTegra
Co-Host: Jirah Cox, Nutanix
Co-Host: Ben Rogers, Nutanix
Co-host: Chris Calhoun, XenTegra
Co-host: Andy Greene, XenTegra
Special Guest: Tom Powell, Nutanix

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Philip Sellers: Welcome again to another episode of Nutanix weekly, and not just any episode, but a very special episode. We're going triple digits for the very 1st time. That's right. Episode 100. We've hit a milestone. And so, thanks for spending a little time with us and listening along going to be a little different kind of episode as we celebrate.

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Philip Sellers: We've got some familiar faces. We've got new faces. We might even have a special guest on the line with us. So it's going to be fun today, and we're going to talk a little bit about some of our favorite memories

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Philip Sellers: we're going to talk about, you know, maybe, how we got here and how we got started on this beloved podcast, and we're gonna see what stories we can share as we kind of pull back the curtains and talk about nutanix weekly.

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Philip Sellers: how this whole thing started, so I couldn't do it alone.

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Philip Sellers: So we've got lots of guests on the podcast so 1st up want to introduce members of this integra team. So Andy green, relatively new to this integra, team

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Philip Sellers: andy, what is this week number. You're like a baby because we're still in the weeks phase. We're not even in the months phase, right? So week number one.

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Andy Greene: Probably 1614. Somewhere in there.

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Philip Sellers: Okay, so not quite walking yet. But we're we're getting towards Toddler phase. So yeah, Andy. If you've listened to earlier episodes. Andy came along joined us from cohesity, but, like many of us, very affiliated with the nutanix ecosystem, how many years did you spend at Nutanix Andy?

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Andy Greene: I was there for 6 and a half years, from 2016 up to 2022.

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Philip Sellers: So during a a major growth effort you were with the company. So we we love having you on teams integra and appreciate you joining us for this special episode.

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Philip Sellers: Another somewhat familiar voice, you may know, is Mr. Chris Calhoun came to us from the Nutanix Enterprise team covering the Carolinas.

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Philip Sellers: Chris has been with us a little over 6 months now, and just turning out to be a rock star on this integra team. Chris, how are you doing today? And how's life treating you.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Fantastic.

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Philip Sellers: Yeah.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Definitely glad to be here with this crew celebrating obviously 100 episodes is fantastic. I remember being on the nutanic side and listening to this podcast getting some of my buddies from Nutanic, some of the Newbies that were early sellers of nutanic say, Hey, how can I get acclimated? We'll jump into the podcast listen every week and see how the discussion goes. That'll give you an idea of

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: of really the ins and outs and some of the bullet points that are covered. Each episode are great conversation starters. And I think that that's where I started listening in and really appreciate.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Obviously, at the time Jaira and I worked alongside each other. And so then, knowing is an extension to the Zintegra family, you. So that's definitely been a blessing to stay associated with both sides, so definitely glad to be here today.

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Philip Sellers: Well, we're, we're gonna get to some of that. Some of the interesting meetings meet ups and plane dates as we go through the the podcast today. But we, we've got some stories to shell share from behind the scenes. We also could not do this without some

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Philip Sellers: firepower from the team nutanix, and so want to introduce Jira Cox, one of our longstanding supporters been on the podcast for a large percentage of the 100 episodes, maybe 99% of those 100 episodes. Jira, how are you today?

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Jirah Cox: I mean, no one that knows me will be shocked to know that I don't have perfect attendance. But yeah, it's been a blast. Been fun to grow it right from like

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Jirah Cox: I think it was really me and Andy and Andy was like in a staircase somewhere on his laptop with a pair of headphones plugged in. So, you know. Look at us now, right with a big centennial.

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Philip Sellers: Yeah, I know, someone was talking about podcast. Fade, right? The idea that people launch a, podcast. They get started with it. And then it kind of fades away. It's a lot of work. It takes effort to be reliable and to get episodes out there. So yeah, this is a huge accomplishment, and

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Philip Sellers: I went back, and as I was preparing for this, I listened to some of those early episodes again. And, Jaira, you were there from the start. So we it is great to have you here with us today to celebrate this.

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Jirah Cox: It's a blast to be here. Yeah, it's been a lot of fun, I mean, thanks to Zintegra as well, for you know I'm I don't know. Semi permanent guest. I do none of the work to get this off the ground right? So thank you guys for the diligence around the scheduling the recording, the publishing, the driving of it. It's it's hats off to integra all the way.

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Philip Sellers: I appreciate that we're also joined by Ben Rogers, another really familiar voice. So if we're we're rating number of episodes. I did not go and Count Ben, you can forgive me for that. But I'd say high. 70 80% of the episodes probably been a part of ben's also been a long time

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Philip Sellers: supporter for us here at Zintegra, and a good friend of the company. You were a customer first.st Now you're at Nutanix as an Enterprise sales. Engineer. It's great to have you here to celebrate with us today, too.

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Ben Rogers: I appreciate that. I'm a little shocked that I'm involved in 70% of the podcast. I would have thought that I would have been a little bit lower. What's been interesting is how I got here.

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Ben Rogers: I was on the citrix podcast and then, when I came over to nutanix, Andy was like, we'll just put you on the nutanix. Podcast

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Ben Rogers: I knew a lot more about citrix than I did nutanix. So this has been great for me to learn about nutanix and different facets of Nutanix. It's been great to hang out with the talent that's on this podcast because there's much smarter people on here than I am, and overall. I just really enjoyed it. I can always tell when an episode gets released, because my Linkedin will go crazy and I'll go. I wonder what just happened, and it'll let me know that a podcast. Has been released. So it's been good for nutanix.

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Ben Rogers: It's been good for Zintegra, and it's been good for me personally in my brand. So I appreciate integra and nutanix, and everybody for allowing me to participate.

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Philip Sellers: Well, we appreciate you, too, Ben. Ben's always great. As one of the things you may or may not know, listening to the podcast is that integra holds in person events all throughout the Us. Probably several a week. And Ben shows up for Us. He's. He's always a good supporter helping us out, and really just

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Philip Sellers: believes in us and and what we're trying to do here.

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Philip Sellers: and and I mentioned we've got a special guest on the podcast today, too. We've got a friend of the companies, he, he's he's someone I've gotten to know over the last couple of years, and mystery Guest

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Philip Sellers: X.

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Philip Sellers: Are you gonna introduce yourself.

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Ben Rogers: Hey? Thanks for the opportunity. So Tom Powell, senior manager here at Nutanix almost 10 years in which is kind of crazy, and I know, you see.

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Ben Rogers: Ben's camera lit up. That's because we're using his microphone.

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Ben Rogers: a lot of talent on this. Podcast I'm not part of that. But we're glad the to better support you, and you support us the way you do, and we've got some great partnerships out there with, quite a lot of customers. So it's been exciting, and Andy and I go way way back so I might know something about the genesis of your company name.

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Philip Sellers: We're gonna get to that because intersections is one of the things we want to talk about, because there's a lot of intersections between this group of folks and

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Philip Sellers: before we get to intersections. Let's talk about beginnings. Let's talk about the the very beginning, Jaira, when you think back to those earliest episodes and stuff you you mentioned. It may have been Andy

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Philip Sellers: sitting in a stairwell with a laptop, but what stands out to you about what we were trying to do from the beginning.

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Jirah Cox: The the number. One word in my mind is uniqueness, right? I've never seen. And I've worked with a bunch of partners, and I've never worked with one before that had this really awesome idea of saying, there's already so much collateral out there. We can, you know, we're all being good stewards of our time, we can pretty easily take

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Jirah Cox: printed content or written content, long form, and then make it a really interesting discussion. Topic, record it, and guess what? That's what a podcast is. So from a you know, as a participant in that, I like easy, too. Right? So you know, finding a blog post, finding a couple couple hopefully smart, sounding things to say about it, putting it out there. It's a really novel marketing and really technical marketing play.

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Philip Sellers: Well, Ben, we were talking a little bit about this before we started the recording today, but for everyone listening how much preparation goes into one of these podcasts.

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Ben Rogers: Oh, I so my Tom, my manager, he always asked me on Monday, was like, What's the topic? And he'll ask like at lunchtime, and I'm like, I don't know. He's like, what do you mean? You don't know, and I'm like we don't get handed the topic until we get in the zoom room. So all the listeners. When we come into this we know nothing about what we're gonna talk about that day they pick the subject.

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Ben Rogers: and then you're either a subject matter expert or guess what what I'm doing half the time is I'm Googling Chat Gpt, and the answers so that I could try to get a little bit ahead of the curve. But a lot of the times it's it's on the line on fire. So that's been one interesting thing about this is

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Ben Rogers: sometimes I've gotten in some conversations. I've gotten off the podcast and said, Oh, I didn't do a very good job representing that subject. But that's quite interesting and unique about this is 0 preparation recorded on online. Live no time to really prepare you. Take the mistakes as they come, and if you do make a mistake, you try to circle back around and correct the mistake. But yeah, been quite an interesting

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Ben Rogers: being a participant of that with that just alone.

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Philip Sellers: Yeah. And and speaking of trial by fire. Chris, how long was it before I got you on the 1st podcast. When you joined integra.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: It was the 1st week for sure.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Oh, so you had signed.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Yes, yes.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: yep, yep, it was. I think it started like, maybe on a Tuesday, or something like that middle of the week, and then got an invite for that Friday, and I was like.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: wonder what I should be prepared for, and the answer is 0 right, Ben.

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Philip Sellers: It? Yeah.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Everything.

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Jirah Cox: The answer is, yes, yeah. Be prepared. Yep.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Unknown. Yes, yes. So yeah, it was definitely. And I've thought that, too. And and Andy is a preparer, I can tell you that cause, and Andy asks in the in the nicest way, too, he tries to say, Hey, Phillip.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: what's the point

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: point of discussion today? And I I've given up. So I just said, No, it's a surprise. Quit asking. Just show up for the fun.

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Philip Sellers: There's definitely a wing and a prayer aspect to this.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: I love wings.

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Philip Sellers: But you know wings and bread. We'll come back around to that one, too. But you know, it's 1 of those things like. I appreciate this because the point of us having this discussion is to learn it is something where there's grace. If we do happen to get it wrong. We'll circle back around but

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Philip Sellers: what we didn't want to fall into with this was paralysis, right? You know, you can prepare so much that you end up, never actually getting it done. And so we wanted to get this out. We wanted to be able to talk. And we've got good good people always on the podcast and so

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Philip Sellers: it's never a concern of of not getting good information. We've got a great basis, tons of

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Philip Sellers: information. We've covered over a hundred episodes that's been produced by Nutanix technical marketing. You know, we have a basis. We're not completely just winging this. We've been supported by so many writers and technical experts that put out this information. So it's a great way to just kind of base, the podcast because again, we have that safety net of the blog post, we're reviewing, we have

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Philip Sellers: again great technical chops represented on the call,

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Philip Sellers: So when I think about this podcast there's a lot of really interesting intersections between the teams. So

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Philip Sellers: how many people on the call have reported to Tom at some point on in their career? Tom's covering space. So yeah, we got a couple of former employees that that talked that were on Tom's team in the Enterprise. And then, Andy, you spent time at Nutanix as well. So I'm the odd man out. I've never been on staff

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Philip Sellers: at Nutanix so I'm the only one. So you know. Just keep that in mind, you know. Might have to do a tour duty at some point. But you know, it's it's fun to have all you guys kind of there? Tom, you mentioned knowing a thing or 2 about how this company's integra got its name. So what's your

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Philip Sellers: everyone has an Andy Whiteside story. Andy Whiteside's our founder, and CEO. Tom, what's your Andy story?

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Ben Rogers: So Andy was the he was my Essie when I was a customer.

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Ben Rogers: You guys not hear us.

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Philip Sellers: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Gotcha.

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Ben Rogers: So yeah, so Andy was my se when I was a customer of Citrix, and I ended up

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Ben Rogers: interviewing. He was on my interview panel when Citrix hired me as an Se. I spent 5 years there

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Ben Rogers: and then Andy decided to start his own partner business and I considered an opportunity to go work with him, and he said, we need a company name and you know, it was really founded on integrity.

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Ben Rogers: And there was a lot of Zen from the Zen desktop zen app to kind of that whole citrix ecosystem. So

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Ben Rogers: I put the words together and said, You know, this word's not used so it looks like you could create integra and the rest of that history. I decided to go to work at Nutanix clearly and

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Ben Rogers: He built a fantastic company with Zintegra and surround himself with a lot of smart people which is good move on his part. So do. I have regrets. You know, you go back and everybody makes choices for a reason. But yeah. So that's an interesting intersection we had.

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Philip Sellers: Yeah, so my intersection is actually really similar to that. So Andy was my citrix se years ago, when I was working at a previous company. And

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Philip Sellers: my story I'll tell is this is right around the time of zen client. So you know you could put the operating system on any old piece of trash computer and turn it into basically a thin, client sort of like Agel does today. And

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Philip Sellers: So we came in. We were working on some stuff, and and we literally went to the graveyard in the back of our building and found the oldest, crappiest computer we could find. I mean it didn't have 5 and quarter drives on it, but it was kind of of that era right, and

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Philip Sellers: we put zen client on it, and at the end of the engagement Andy goes, hey, can I take that with me? And I wanna say, I think he carried it in his trunk and showed it off for a long time after that. So it was one of those fun sort of interactions and then when's integra was founded.

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Philip Sellers: that company still a customer today that I get to work with with my old colleagues. And so we were one of the 1st to sign on, because we loved that if we work with integra they're gonna invest back in us with conference passes and things like that. So

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Philip Sellers: we signed on with that benefit early on. So really cool to to hear your story, too, Tom.

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Philip Sellers: Andy Green, I'm gonna come to you now. So

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Philip Sellers: we we saved you a little bit. We didn't throw you in 1st week. But your 1st episode, was actually a in-house episode. We did one together. And you know, I I'm curious kind of

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Philip Sellers: you are the preparer in the group. But how? How are your nerves coming into one of these.

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Andy Greene: My nerves are good, my voice maybe not so much. I had some vacation last week. I managed to bring back a little bit of a cold with me. So so hopefully, that's not too disruptive to the listeners out there. But but I've also got my own Andy Whiteside story. If it's okay.

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Philip Sellers: Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Please. Share.

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Andy Greene: Sure, sure. So you know, I mentioned earlier, I started with Nutanix back in 2016, and it was just a really fantastic time for the company, and and also for myself, just surrounded by really good people.

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Andy Greene: And I remember we were in a different office back in those days. It was on Hunt Street in Durham, and Andy spent a lot of time in that office. He was just a recurring face that we saw a lot back in those days, and he always struck me as a really smart guy. Even back in those days he described that kind of consultative approach to doing business

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Andy Greene: and and I think you know what all of us saw was that he he had a demonstrated expertise around Vdi. Specifically, but more importantly, he got Nutanix. He understood what we were doing and and why it mattered. And and you know, I think that that was for me that that really impressed me because we always needed those partners that that understood us and and were willing to to, you know, go into a dogfight with us, so to speak.

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Philip Sellers: Yeah, and and that's really how we got started here at at Zintegra is, you know, we need good infrastructure to run. Vdi. We were such a Vdi centric company, and that's where our genesis happened. I mean, Nutanix is still a great platform for running. Vdi and so we we've been all in kind of from that perspective. But it's fun to get to go that next mile right?

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Philip Sellers: you know, Chris Andy, as we're working

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Philip Sellers: our opportunities and stuff today with customers.

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Philip Sellers: I I would say, it's it's a maybe 2025% of those are Vdi based. And almost everything we're doing is more across the generalized data center anymore. So that's a huge shift for us as we've kinda moved things forward together. Do you agree.

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Andy Greene: Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I think the.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: The nutanix guys are nodding because I think still, the numbers roughly, what 2025% of all nutanix customers still use, or or one of the purposed workloads is Vdi. Isn't that right, guys?

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Ben Rogers: That's true. Yeah.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, still, definitely super solid for foundational Vdi workloads. But now, getting into deeper into the tech, more moving away from specialist to generalized. And now, even back to some specialist around the AI workloads. So I think it's it's seen an a great shift in.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Of course I even heard a customer say, Hey! Oh, that's the Vdi Storage Company, and that's interesting, because that was a very old mindset of

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: how to look at Nutanix, and I think that that in itself is an evolution of growth

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: for both our company as well as Nutanix, you know, like

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: obviously Super, focused on the Vdi workloads expanding, growing. And I think that that's why we are here today. And that's why Philip, like you said we did reach 100, because there is value in our message to our customers and the Nutanix platform technology as a whole. And I think it. I'm preaching, I know, but it's

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: it's what what we're passionate about. That's why we're here today. You know.

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Philip Sellers: But I have to add to that. I feel like at a hundred episodes. We're just

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Philip Sellers: at the tip of the spear, and I don't think we've we've covered nearly all the breadth of what's going to be out there. What's going to be capable here, and and that to me is exciting, too, because, you know, talked about, podcast fade or pod fade, or whatever the term was. I don't see that in our future we we've got lots of road to travel ahead.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Absolutely.

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Philip Sellers: you know. Intersections was was one of our topics. Chris and I. We've got a fun intersection story.

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Philip Sellers: we were heading out to a little thing called Nutanix, Global Tech Summit a couple of years ago. And we ran into some logistical problems. Gyro was there.

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Jirah Cox: That wasn't the problem. To be fair.

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Philip Sellers: To be fair. That is.

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Ben Rogers: Think I know the story you're talking about.

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Ben Rogers: Yeah. So Chris, you wanna tell that story. Maybe one of the 1st times we met in person.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Yeah, that's exactly right. And what's interesting is, we've corresponded through email prior. But yet we were sitting there, both looking around thinking, okay, how do we get from Point a east coast to Point B West coast?

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: And there were 2, I think, 2 different groups flying. There was an early crew, and then the mid-morning crew and the early crew. Their flight got delayed, delayed, delayed, postponed, delayed, canceled, delayed, and yet the mid-morning crew

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: everything seemed to be okay, and then the whole route there it was constantly checking back in. Because that's

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: the Charlotte market, was the the regional hub for everybody from the Raleigh folks that had driven down to come from Charlotte to. We had half a nutanix, either flying over across the Us. To Vegas and the other half waiting in Charlotte to catch the second flight. So it.

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Philip Sellers: Harvey's the probably the skinniest dude that eats the most I've ever seen in my life shout out to Harvey, because it is one of those things where I do not know where he got his metabolism. But I want to buy one.

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Philip Sellers: the the things that that happened to come up. I mean, we've we've had all sorts of squirrels run across the screen, and and us just get lost and go down a rabbit hole over the years. But I wish we had like a clip train so that we could just pull out some of those

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Philip Sellers: You know, we've we've talked about family. We've talked about vacations, all sorts of things in between. Because that's part of this, too, is you know, we we want to know each other. And and from the beginnings integra was was created to create community. And this is just another way of creating community. So

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Philip Sellers: I'm gonna ask you about something that happened the year before the airline incident at Gts. But we were we were in a big room I think it was after a keynote at Gts. And I'm standing there with you and and a few other folks and some people came up to us. Do you remember that day?

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Ben Rogers: I also have people that's reached out to me to ask more information about for the for the company, and so I'm just real thankful that I've been involved and been able to cross all those bridges. But some of the memories I've had is the fear of. Oh, Jared's not gonna be on this call. We're gonna have to work that one out. And the victory of

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Ben Rogers: this was a really good call, and we covered a lot of good content that's going to be valuable to our listeners. So just so, you know, Jayra, when you called Ben earlier. It did show up as crutch. I don't know if that means anything.

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Ben Rogers: and while we initially came to market with an appliance to see us fully, you know, evolve to a subscription based software company. What does that? What do I predict? We're gonna continue to see innovation. So if you think you know, born in an appliance. Hci, that was the only market we could. We could go after. You see how that's expanded. We recently announced. Early access for Nc, 2 on Google Cloud, right? So now we're in 3 major cloud providers

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Ben Rogers: so we're building it to be ready to be ready for whatever next is. And speaking of next, I do want to put a plug in for our user conference that's in May on May 7th or 9.th I know a lot of those integra folks are there, and you got a lot of your customers coming. We appreciate that. But it's gonna be a great event, some exciting announcements. And then most of the faces on this podcast here are going to be there, live in person. So we get to shake your hand.

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Philip Sellers: That's it, Chris. You are! Gonna bring up the rear here.

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Philip Sellers: Since you're our bald friend, I think there's a joke somewhere around. Don't look at me that way.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: today and one on one. So basically, here's the, here's my thoughts. And I think the timing of the broadcom

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: if we keep it on. Prem, okay, great. Let's develop that crystal ball, bald head model looking into the future of what we want to make it, which is exactly what everybody has, said Ben. You said Speed. Tom. You said agility, automation. You know all of these are the concepts that you want out of a solution and a platform, and had it been 5 years ago that broadcom

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: to the platform is ahv to get to that agility, because that's where all the developments coming in the speed, the efficiency, the software defined data center is through the platform. So again, I'm happy to preach. And I enjoyed today's session, obviously with the crew here fantastic. I've got all kinds of good stories of 1st meeting Ben whenever I was at Nutanix.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: and my rep and I attended as integra workshop, so that was back in the Harvey and days of between him and Andy, lugging the cluster from his trunk and setting it up for customers. That's exactly what it was. And I think, Ben, that was your 1st week at Citrix

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Philip Sellers: closest to the PIN wins? So what do you expect?

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Jirah Cox: I will take $298.

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Philip Sellers: Okay. Chris.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: $412.

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Philip Sellers: Andy.

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Andy Greene: We're 56.

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Philip Sellers: Ben.

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Ben Rogers: 5, 15.

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Jirah Cox: And we're going price is right rules, right?

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Yes, yes, of course.

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Philip Sellers: Without going over.

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Ben Rogers: 3, 65.

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Philip Sellers: 3, 65. Well, Ben, you win, my friend, it was $795.

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Chris Calhoun | XenTegra: Gosh!

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Jirah Cox: My goodness.

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Ben Rogers: Now I will tell you. I have a little unfair advantage of that. I'm going through this with a customer right now. They're shipping nodes across the place like, have a little bit of knowledge of what that cost.

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Philip Sellers: This guy, and these were heavy. This was one of those 4 node to you, chassis.

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Philip Sellers: To it. Yeah.

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Jirah Cox: So we've learned today, replicating in software is way cheaper kids.

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Philip Sellers: Is, that's what it is.

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Jirah Cox: Exactly.

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Philip Sellers: But you know you don't get the huge spin up of the fans and the wine, and like run everybody away from it.

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Jirah Cox: That was really my Andy Whiteside story of like I had just started Nutanix. This is like 7 and a half years ago, and Andy to his credit, would invite anybody he knew at the company to be like, Hey, come, do a webinar with me. Webinar meant you come. You came and met him in this tiny little, almost a 1 man office with the cluster on table behind you. And you, Foundation, did, and set it up. Live on camera

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Jirah Cox: for customers. And at that point in time Andy didn't know this. You probably could tell pretty easily. He knew way more about foundation than I did so. I'm like, what am I doing here? Listen to this like server screaming away in the background of a webcam. This is this is a lot of fun.

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Ben Rogers: Funny story about that when I when I started Nutanix, it was same thing right. And I I got 34, 60 out of the Demo Pool and I was told by the manager at time goes.

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Ben Rogers: You can't just keep that thing in your car and take it around and show people, and I'm like, why not?

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Ben Rogers: So it became a running joke with the the Vp. Of sales at the time is like, Oh, call PAL! I'm sure he's still got it in the trunk of that ford, and that's what it was. And Andy and I did a bunch of that in the early days was integra dragging a bunch of gear out and showing the citrix could run on anything but you know, seeing is believing, and a lot of people just couldn't believe that you could get all that infrastructure in a small package like that. So, anyway, good story.

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Ben Rogers: when you would do it on site, you would get the cluster up and running in like 5, 1015 min. There's a lot of power to see, you know, from nothing to bare metal up and running to Aos up and running. That's a lot of you know, that is, seeing is believing. In my opinion, I always enjoyed that.

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Philip Sellers: making something that's very complex. I mean, foundation is actually probably a very complex activity under the covers. But the activity to the customer is really simple.

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Philip Sellers: and that's 1 of the things that I do love about everything that Nutanix is pushing out is there's a focus on that user experience that I think is really compatible

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Philip Sellers: with kind of the way we want to do business at Zintegra. We want things that focus on outcomes that make things easier to consume that help. You meet your business objectives at the end of the day, and so that's I know Jaira's been on enough episodes with me. He's probably tired of hearing me, but I just love the simplification.

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Philip Sellers: That to me is what makes technology mainstream. Because.

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Philip Sellers: you know, when we get into the guts, I remember early training modules and stuff on Nutanix University, you know when we were learning about Medusa and all of the subsystems underneath the covers of the storage system like, there's a lot of complexity there. And you know, learning the different components and how things are are architected.

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Philip Sellers: The fact that you can do something that complex in a very simple way is a huge win for customers.

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Ben Rogers: I was fascinated when they did. They did an Aos upgrade where they started splitting some of the files out, and they did it for performance, and and it dawned on me then it was kind of a kick in the past member for me, like there's a lot of tuning that can be done in the software of this system that's not even to the table yet.

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Ben Rogers: And so there's still a lot that a lot of goodness to be developed a lot of goodness to be tuned. And I just really have a feeling that we're on the forefront of something great for the company. I mean, we're going to be in every cloud by the end of the year. We're gonna be able to be premises pretty much wherever you need to be. Nutanix can get you there, and Nutanix can get you there with a performance platform.

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Philip Sellers: having to engineer that years in advance. You know, we're we're able to realize, and you're able to deliver to all of our customers that kind of performance increase which is really incredible.

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Ben Rogers: All this 1st class citizens. So one thing I still from Tom is vms and containers are 1st class citizens on our cluster. There's no, there's no performance decrease from one and run to the other, and I don't think a lot of our competitors can really say that they can do one really good, but I don't think they can do both as well as we can.

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Philip Sellers: Well, for everybody listening along, we have exhausted an entire hour. It's been fun reminiscing, sharing stories, talking about how we came to know each other. Hope you've enjoyed listening to us on behalf of everybody here, Jira, Chris, Andy, Tom, Ben, myself, Phil Sellers. Thanks for listening in. We'll catch you on episode 101, and hope you have a great day.

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Philip Sellers: Take care, everyone.